Socialist Fight statement on Gilad Atzmon, Devon Nola, Ian Greenhalgh of Veterans Today, anti-communism, racism and antisemitism 25-1-202018
30/01/2020 by socialistfight
Signed by Gerry Downing, Mick Artur, Paul Humphreys, John Carty (full members), Charlie Walsh, Ella Downing, Gareth Martin (candidate members), Wilhelm Specklin (Holland), Dov Winter (USA), (International sympathisers).
The Socialist Fight Statement
Socialist Fight unreservedly condemns as racist and antisemitic Gilad Atzmon, Devon Nola and Ian Greenhalgh of Veterans Today and most of the milieu they attract and those who support them. And Gilad Atzmon notoriously said: “I despise the Jew in me and detest the Jew in you”, clearly indicating he was antisemitic. Socialist Fight rejects the Judeo-Bolshevik conspiracy theories they promulgate and identify them as irreconcilable enemies of Socialist Fight, Trotskyism in general and all who wish to fight for a socialist future. 
On 6th September 2019 Devon Nola republished on her Facebook site an extract is from the In Plain Sight blog which contained this paragraph.
“One of the first new laws created by the Jewish Bolsheviks when they took over Russia was to make “antisemitism” punishable by jail or death. Despite its freedoms, the United States is now following in Russia’s footsteps, with Jews like Chuck Schumer leading the charge.” 
This is Nazi propaganda. The “Jewish Bolsheviks” did not “take over Russia”. The Bolsheviks led a socialist revolution, the single greatest progressive event in human history, as yet unsurpassed in its human liberation effects worldwide. The Bolsheviks, led by Lenin and Trotsky, naturally outlawed the Tsar’s pogroms against all Jews and stopped the mass indiscriminate slaughter of Jews by the White Armies during the Civil War.
Devon Nola, Gilad Atzmon and others defended this quote in a series of posts on her own Facebook site on 6th September and on Gerry Downing’s on the 8th and 28th of September. Here are some of their published comments which identify them as our irreconcilable enemies. In this endnote are the Facebook sites which contain the debates. We have not corrected the typos. 
Devon Nola wrote on 6th September 2019:
“Pointing out that Bolshevism was a Jewish-led “revolution” isn’t anti-Semitic, it’s fact. And the crimes they carried out were heinous, however, this gets buried in historical narratives.”
“actually, nothing here is propaganda. Bolshevism was a Jewish-led form of government, and we can delve into what caused anti-Jewish sentiment pre-Bolshevism.”
She really believes the gross reactionary lies of the White armies and the Nazis. She regrets the decisive actions of the Bolsheviks in putting an immediate end to the Tsar’s and then the White armies’ pogroms of the Jews, and regrets the re-imposition of the death penalty for the mass slaughter of Jews during the Civil War, and claims not to know what “what caused anti-Jewish sentiment pre-Bolshevism” – i.e. maybe the Tsar had a point and they deserved it. Hers are antisemitic posts.
Gilad Atzmon wrote on 8th September thread:
“save me and the rest of us of your cosmopolitan working class revolutionary crap”
“this localist thing worked everywhere from Libya to China to Venezuela ..and in Russia it also started to work only when cosmopolitanism was defeated … if I ve to chose between your hero (Leon Trotsky) and Stalin I am certainly with that latter .. in fact the only communists I get on with are stalinists…”
And explaining why Stalin was right to begin mass murdering Jews:
“the fact that Stalin turned against the Jews is known to everyone here.. I do believe that Stalin insisted eventually to give Russia back to the Russians and this clearly made some ppl upset … it certainly explains Stalin’s paranoia ,, he knew what he was up against ,.”
And explaining why fascism has nothing to do with imperialism and is really all about equality:
“Fascism is a simple principle that adhere to equality within strict boundaries. It has nothing to do with imperialism or dominance of other people.”
“I have no issues with Lenin or the fact that he spoke Yiddish … the question is why Stalin concealed the revelations re Lenin’s partial ethnicity ? 2. Similarly I wonder why questioning the demography of revolution pushes Gerry Joseph Downing to a tantrum…3 . Would Gerry and the other Cosmopolitans would also try to silence the discussion of demography if it was revealed that 70% of the Bolshevists were Shia Muslims or members of a Christian cult? I guess that we know the answer. We are touching upon questions to do with J(ew) privilege in the Left…”
And in his book, The Wandering Who? p179:
“If Iran and Israel fight a nuclear war that kills tens of millions of people, “some may be bold enough to argue that ‘Hitler might have been right after all.’” 
Are we bold enough to admire the politics of Adolph Hitler?
What about a white supremacist former Imperial Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan? Here is David Duke’s letter to Gilad Atzmon in September 2011:
As usual Gilad, you write such fine articles exposing the evil of Zionism and Jewish supremacism. I do want to clarify a couple of things that I imagine you have already considered.
“… 2. The vast majority of influential Jews who hold real power in media, politics, academia, and finance are hell-bent to promote massive immigration of all types. They receive great pleasure from every degeneration and degradation of the European people. They are exemplified by the Jewish porn kings, who openly boast how they are purposely degrading the Gentile enemy and subverting the ethical values of the European Christian people. 
Atzmon returns the complement
«David Duke is a humanist because he says, “I want to celebrate my right and you should celebrate your rights» whether you are Muslim or black or whatever. He believes that all people should celebrate their rights, this is his current philosophy. Avidgor Liberman (arch Zionist) is not a humanist, because he wants to celebrate his rights at the expense of other people.””
So, the lynching of black people does not count for both these white supremacists.
David Landy quotes Atzmon:
“We must begin to take the accusation that the Jewish people are trying to control the world very seriously…American Jewry makes any debate on whether the ‘Protocols of the Elders of Zion’ are an authentic document or rather a forgery irrelevant. American Jews do try to control the world, by proxy.” “Israel’s behaviour throws some light on the persecution of Jews throughout history. (Atzmon 2003-2007)” 
Sue Blackwell comments on Israel Shamir and Mary Rizzo:
“The spider in the web is Israel Shamir and what is most dishonest about Rizzo’s article is that not once did he make an appearance in her article. Shamir runs his website (link not allowed on Facebook). His web pages are a veritable gold mine of anti-Semitic calumnies. You would have to plumb the depths of the worst neo-Nazi publications to find a defence of the Easter Blood Libel accusation (that Jews slaughtered non-Jewish children to make the Passover bread at Easter).” 
Israel Shamir, in his post, For Whom The Bell Tolls, says:
“The Holocaust concept is just another form of this prayer. They say that even their death is not like the death of anybody else. We must deny the concept of Holocaust without doubt and hesitation, even if every story of Holocaust down to the most fantastic invention of Wiesel were absolutely true.
Always looking for the bright side of things: now the Europeans do not have to worry about the dark prophecy of the Protocols. The rule of the Elders of Zion is already upon us, and egad! — it is not half as bad as we feared. At least, not yet.” 
These published remarks put this political current outside the ranks not only of socialism and the workers’ movement but of liberal democratic capitalist society itself.
And here is The Writings of Israel Shamir, Dispute in England around 2006 Tony Greenstein, Charlie Pottins and Sue Blackwell are featured as strong opponents of Atzmon, Shamir, Eisen and Mary Rizzo, (many of the links cited there no longer work, including Gilad Atzmon’s):
“The bottom line of the dispute in England is positive: though the Jewish alliance keeps the whole spectrum from Daily Telegraph to Lenin’s Tomb, they lost Counterpunch and Antiwar, and are retreating into their reservation. Our friends Gilad Atzmon, Paul Eisen and Mary Rizzo are the shining stars of the battle, and they are doing good by defeating the adversary.” 
Veterans Today is a far right website which hosts the ex-British Army, antisemitic, Holocaust denying, conspiracy theory man Ian Greenhalgh. Doctor Kevin Barrett’s site also regularly hosts him and a range of other conspiracy freak heads. 
Gilad Atzmon and others whom we recognise have posted there. Socialist Fight utterly condemns the political character of these sites.
In an article on 14 December 2019 entitled U.K. Election Meddling: Where did all the votes go? Ian Greenhalgh wrote:
“Britain was just struck by disaster as Rothschild stooge and compulsive liar Boris Johnson was ‘elected’ Prime Minister is a general election. I use quotes around elected as it seems obvious that the polling result was completely fraudulent.” 
Writing Boris Johnson is a “Rothschild stooge” is a standard antisemitic trope. In an article The End Is Near For The United Kingdom? August 30, 2019 he wrote:
“You know who I am talking about, the Zionists of the banking classes, their political lackeys and those who control the great and the good via blackmail. They are the people who killed JFK, who blew up the twin towers, who instigated both world wars, who crushed Russia and Germany; they have the blood of hundreds of millions on their hands and they have no regard for human life.
“At the top are a handful of elite Jewish banking families, names that will be all too familiar. Ezra Pound listed most of them in a radio broadcast back in 1942:
“No Rothschild is English… No Baruch, Morgenthau, Cohen, Lehman, Warburg, Kuhn, Kahn, Schiff, Sieff or Solomon were ever born Anglo-Saxon. And it is for this filth that you fight. It is for this filth that you murdered your Empire. It is this filth that elects, selects, your politicians.”
Prime among them is the Rothschilds; Boris is a close associate of the London branch of that most infamous family and he serves their interests, not those of the people of the United Kingdom.” 
In a post, Holocaust-denying ‘Nazi grandma’ sentenced to 10 months in jail, on May 15, 2016 he wrote:
What sort of nation throws 87 year old women into jail for speaking the truth? Certainly not one that can consider itself to be a functioning free and fair democracy. I present a few pictures of the Auschwitz ‘death camp’ to support Ms. Haverbeck’s position – it was not a death camp, it was a labour camp. 
This is vile reactionary racist antisemitic nonsense. Ezra Pound was a Nazi follower and supported Hitler in WWII.  Socialist Fight unreservedly condemns it and advises all serious socialist and democrats not to associate with this milieu in any way.
 Gerry Downing 27-9-19, Jewish Bolshevism is an anti-communist and antisemitic canard, https://socialistfight.com/2019/09/23/jewish-bolshevism-is-an-anti-communist-and-antisemitic-canard/,
Gerry Downing, 28-9-19, On the anti-communism and anti-Semitism of Devon Nola and Gilad Atzmon, https://socialistfight.com/2019/09/28/on-the-anti-communism-and-anti-semitism-of-devon-nola-and-gilad-atzmon/
Ian Donovan, 30-9-19, Once Again on ‘Anti-Semitism” and all that Jazz, https://socialistfight.com/2019/09/30/once-again-on-anti-semitism-and-all-that-jazz/
 In Plain Sight, November 5, 2018 Jewish Senator Introduces Law To Imprison Americans For Criticizing Israel
https://ronabbass.wordpress.com/2018/11/05/jewish-senator-introduces-law-to-imprison-americans-for-criticizing-israel/ This post correctly points out the reactionary character of the bill before writing the vile antisemitic paragraph.
 Devon Nola’s Facebook site, 6 September 2019, https://www.facebook.com/devon.nola/posts/10157467087759481
Gerry Downing’s Facebook site 8 September 2019, https://www.facebook.com/gerdowning/posts/10220730773007134
Gerry Downing’s Facebook site 28 September 2019, https://www.facebook.com/gerdowning/posts/10220933157546621
 David Duke, July 29, 2011 Letter to the Courageous Former Israeli Gilad Atzmon, ttps://davidduke.com/letter-to-the-courageous-former-israeli-gilad-atzmon/
 Gilad Atzmon, On Anti-Semitism, originally at his personal web site, December 20, 2003.
 Contained in his blog is, MUJCA, the Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance for Truth (formerly the Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance for 9/11 Truth), https://kevinbarrett.heresycentral.is/category/ffwn/
 Ian Greenhalgh, December 14, U.K. Election Meddling: Where did all the votes go? https://www.veteranstoday.com/2019/12/14/election-meddling-where-did-all-the-votes-go/
 Ian Greenhalgh, August 30, 2019, The End Is Near For The United Kingdom? https://www.veteranstoday.com/2019/12/12/the-end-is-near/
 Ian Greenhalgh, May 15, 2016, Holocaust-denying ‘Nazi grandma’ sentenced to 10 months in jail https://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/05/15/holocaust-denying-nazi-grandma-sentenced-to-10-months-in-jail/
 Kindley, Evan, The Nation, The Insanity Defense: Coming to terms with Ezra Pound’s politics, https://www.thenation.com/article/coming-to-terms-with-ezra-pounds-politics/
Platform of the Trotskyist Faction
25-1-2020 Ian D + two SF members
This platform is based on the proposition that the politics of Socialist Fight between 2015 and the beginning of 2020 were fundamentally correct, though obviously we cannot claim perfection.
We reject current attempts to fundamentally change them and consider the trend of some in SF to join in the demonisation of Jewish and Israeli-derived critics of the activities of the Zionist-lobby and its Jewish bourgeois material basis, and even more mainstream figures on the Jewish left, to be a capitulation to Zionism and a betrayal of the anti-imperialist programme of SF.
Our platform is Trotskyist and stands on orthodoxy as elaborated in the article ‘The Marxist Theory of the State’ on the concrete nature of post war Stalinism, the need for defence of the degenerated and deformed workers states against imperialism combined with political revolution to bring the proletariat to command of the workers state politically, while opposing counterrevolution. We saw and see today the proletariat as the only force that can defeat the counterrevolution whether emanating from the bureaucracy or elsewhere, with particular regard to the two remaining deformed workers states in Cuba and North Korea.
In common with SF generally we are defenders of semi-colonial countries, including Russia and China, against imperialism. We support the unification of Ireland and a single multi-ethnic state of Palestine, in the context of permanent revolution and in the case of the Middle East, a regional revolution centred on the Arab workers and leading to liberation of the Palestinians from Zionism.
Regarding Zionism and its international manifestation we endorse the 2014 Draft Theses on the Jews and Modern Imperialism, and note that this was the basis for SF’s activity on this question over the last five years. We think this was fundamentally correct and principled, and is the only materialist explanation for the very visible and powerful role of Zionism in Western imperialist politics. We note that those who seek to junk it do not have an alternative materialist analysis.
We stand for the historic politics of SF on special oppression with regard to oppression based on perceived ‘race’, sex or sexual orientation. We stand for workers defence guards and a workers militia to crush fascist threats to workers and the oppressed, and we advocate that the workers movement take independent armed action to suppress fascist political activity, which is never about persuasion but mobilising for murder, as a matter of physical self-defence.
We reject male chauvinist, homophobic and transphobic ideology and stand for the liberation of women and also oppressed sexual minorities through socialist revolution. We reject both all kinds of sexual abuse of youth, and moral guardianship of youth by bourgeois and reactionary moralists. We reject all state interference in the personal lives of consenting adults.
We stand as did Trotsky for the renewal of trade unions through rank-and-file activity and the advancement of new militant leaders against the bureaucracy, and the sensitive, tactically intelligent use of the transitional programme and the transitional method to build a revolutionary opposition in the trade unions.
Likewise we endorse the Trotskyist approach to bourgeois workers parties and class independence embodied in the approach of the Trotskyist movement, as maintained in the practice of SF and the material we published and republished rejecting the anti-Marxist, sectarian distortions of the Spartacist tradition.
We condemn Brexit as fundamentally anti-immigrant and we stand for the abolition of all anti-immigrant laws and controls. We endorse Trotsky’s 1923 essay calling for a United States of Europe and seek to apply this transitional approach to the current situation.
We also endorse the corrective on the question of the right of public criticism put forward by SF, to the errors of the 3rd and 4th internationals regarding such criticism, which ultimately led to phenomena like Healyism, ie. to sects and cults which disgrace the name of Trotskyism, to its fragmentation and degeneration.
On this and on all other outstanding questions which cannot be addressed in full here, we stand on the politics of Marxism, Leninism and Trotskyism, which we consider to be the same movement. We therefore defend the programme of SF as was against the revisionism and unprincipled blocs now engaged in by comrade Downing, who we hope will come to his senses.